21 October 2013 @ 06:10 pm


Things I loved unreservedly:

MOZ ♥ I think my favorite scene was the fake confession, where Neal is all how did that sound? and Moz is all ... sad and tragic? I love how completely open they are with each other. Neal is, we know, capable of locking down his emotions entirely, but he's not doing the stoic thing with Moz. He's hurt and upset by his father's betrayal and abandonment and he wants Moz to be there while he's recording the confession and he comes right out and says so. Oh, BOYS. *snuggles them*

And I liked that Neal is sitting painting, and talking about being in a zone, when Peter comes - I guess Mozzie's anklet-cracker is too heavy for Bugsy to carry around, but I like that Neal at least thought of the fact that he'd look suspicious not moving for four hours.

Neal's little speech about how wearing the anklet feels normal, now. I've read mixed reactions to this, but my interpretation is that Neal sounds ... freaked out and disturbed and uncomfortable, there. Like he's realizing Peter isn't the only one who's lost perspective, and it scares him that he's started to think of having a tracker on his ankle as normal and okay. It's a nice little parallel - Peter is upset and worried that he's forgotten that Neal is a criminal, and Neal is upset and worried that he's forgotten that the anklet (which can be read as metaphor for his relationship with Peter) is a cage.

(That's how I read Neal's expression and tone of voice - I don't think he actually means he misses the anklet when it's not there. But then, "Neal secretly likes/is reassured by the anklet/knowing Peter always knows where he is" has always been an instant backbutton for me in fic, so I hope that's not how they meant it to come across in the episode.)

Other things I liked:

The differences between Peter and Neal are about an actual disagreement over what is right, not "Neal knows what is right and does the opposite anyway and then mopes around feeling horribly guilty about it" like we got for most of S3 and S4. Neal doesn't believe he did anything wrong, here.

Although - am I the only one who really really misses the dynamic of S1 and S2, where Peter knew exactly what Neal was up to, and why, and Neal knew that he knew what and why, and the two of them could talk about it? And argue about what Neal should do, and why? Am I the only one who misses those days? In a lot of ways I feel like they were closer, then.

Neal's reaction to Peter's speech at the end was pitch-perfect, I thought - that "goodbye, Peter" felt very final. He's hurt, and he's not going to get over this soon (if ever - I'm not sure Neal will ever really trust Peter again, after this).

Also, I like the way the episode starts out, early on, showing Neal feeling abandoned and betrayed by his father (with that fake confession recording, and the exchange with Moz) and then ends with Peter ending their friendship and telling him he's no longer part of the family. I don't know if the writers meant to bracket it that way, with Neal-being-abandoned-by-father-figures, but it works.

Other things:

I wish someone had pointed out that Neal is taking a HUGE RISK by breaking the law to clear Peter's name. Yes, if Peter loses his job Neal will go back to prison for the last, what, one and a half years? of his sentence. But if Neal breaks the law to clear Peter, and he gets caught, that's a third strike and he's facing 25 to life. Assuming that Neal's motivations in helping Peter were all about keeping his anklet deal isn't only failing to acknowledge Neal's loyalty and affection for Peter, it's also failing to credit Neal with any common sense or ability to do basic math.

The smart, self-interested thing for Neal to do in this episode would be to sit back, let the system take its course, and if Peter doesn't get cleared keep his head down and sit out the last eighteen months in prison. Much smarter than risking a longer sentence to help Peter. I'm just saying.

(This is not a criticism of El - I completely understand her being upset and lashing out - so much as a criticism of the writers, 'cause they have her and Peter bring up Neal's concern about the anklet deal as the primary motivator for Neal helping Peter.)

Also, it is ... really straining my suspension of disbelief, that Peter doesn't immediately figure out that the coin heist was the price to free him. Peter is smart enough to figure out Neal is behind it, and he knows Neal has done shady things to protect him before (1.09? 2.14?). I don't buy that he doesn't understand exactly what Neal did and why.

(Of course, it's entirely possible that he does understand, and the entire point of that conversation at the end was Peter trying to piss Neal off badly enough that he wouldn't do anything that stupidly risky for Peter ever again? Which would be both adorably tragic and kind of ridiculous at the same time ...)

Okay, about that ending scene:

I think getting some distance from Neal is good for Peter. It's also good for Elizabeth, and there is nothing wrong with Peter prioritizing something other than Neal's best interest for once. Where Peter loses my sympathy is where he says he's doing this for Neal's own good.

And I'm still trying to sort through my feelings about this, and figure out how much of my reaction is about flaws in the writing and ignoring established characterization and how much is about the fact that the show is straying close to some of my giant flashing red DO NOT WANT buttons - which is something that has nothing to do with objective writing quality or in-character-ness at all.

While I completely agree that this is a good thing for Peter, I will be very upset if it's portrayed as a good thing for Neal. Both because I really don't think it is, based on how Neal's character has been portrayed so far (stricter punishments for breaking rules he doesn't understand the purpose of to begin with isn't going to teach Neal to respect authority/the law/the system - it might teach him to fear those things, but that's not the same), and also because ... I don't like stories about characters being boxed in and backed in a corner and controlled for their own good. Characters being trapped as a source of angst or h/c is fine - I love angst! But when it's portrayed as good and right and necessary and "tough love" - well-written or not, justified or not, for me stories like that are extremely uncomfortable to watch/read. It's ... a thing.

I don't know why it's a thing, but it's a giant button I have, and if the show is going to start pushing it regularly this season I may not be watching very much longer.

(It is odd, I know, that I'd latch onto a show like White Collar, a show that is about a felon on a tracking anklet, but the show thus far really hasn't emphasized the power differences or the control Peter has over Neal that much. In a lot of ways it's easy to pretend they're equal partners.)

And now for my newest theory: I think Neal is going to DC this season.

Think about it. There was no reason to mention DC in the scene where they're talking about the promotion, unless it's foreshadowing for something. Also, if Peter is promoted to head of New York White Collar and Neal is still working for that department, Peter is going to be Neal's new handler's boss. And I think what Peter really needs is to remove himself from Neal's chain of command entirely, so he's not in a position to make decisions about Neal's fate, if he's going to get the emotional distance he needs.

Which leaves sending Neal to another city (or giving him to Organized Crime or Bank Fraud or something).

The main argument between Peter and Kramer in S3 was over whether Neal should be treated like a criminal. In 3.16 Peter is adamant that this is a bad idea ("As long as we treat him like a criminal, he'll always think that he is one", etc) while Kramer believes this is the only way to handle someone like Neal, and he needs to be controlled. Now that Peter has changed his mind, I strongly suspect Peter and Kramer are going to reconcile, and I think we are going to see Kramer again. Even if he's not Neal's new handler, I think Kramer is going come back this season.

(This is all speculation and I am completely unspoiled and staying that way, but this is my theory.)

ETA: Am I the only one who, after watching that Peter and El reunion hug, had to pause the ep and try not to cry and/or yell NEAL AND KATE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A HUG LIKE THAT at the screen?
 
 
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Sholio: WhiteCollar-Hard Sell Peter Neal[personal profile] sholio on October 22nd, 2013 01:10 am (UTC)
You know, I think it's interesting that you read that final scene as Peter throwing Neal out of the White Collar family, because I'd read it in exactly the opposite way: that Peter openly acknowledges that Neal's part of the White Collar unit "family", part of his family, and because of that he's having to bring in someone from outside the department to handle Neal -- everyone else, including himself, has become too emotionally involved. It's basically the opposite of throwing him out: he's not reassigning Neal outside the department, just partnering him with someone who isn't emotionally compromised by having gotten too fond of Neal over the years, as is the case with everyone in White Collar now.

Basically, he's decided that he can't continue to be both Neal's handler and friend, so given the choice he's choosing to continue to be Neal's friend over being his handler. Which is a decision I would've thought a lot more of the fandom would be all over, honestly -- in a way it's the ultimate acknowledgement of the thing the show has spent the last few years building up to, that when it comes right down to it Peter is irrevocably and utterly emotionally compromised by Neal; there's no sorting things into "professional" and "personal" boxes anymore. And he openly acknowledged that he thinks of Neal as family; I think this is the first time that he's come right out and said it. And I think the way he says goodbye at the end makes it obvious that he doesn't want things to change too much; Neal might be taking this as a final goodbye, because Neal likes big gestures and isn't so much for emotional in-betweens, but Peter isn't.

(Now whether Peter's "solution" is a good idea, or will actually work, is a different story; Neal's amply proven in the past that setting firmer boundaries just results in Neal finding creative new ways to break those boundaries. I doubt if Peter is going to hand Neal over to someone terribly hardassed -- there's no way Peter wouldn't vet any new handler six ways from Sunday, and his poor replacement handler is probably going to get Peter looking over his shoulder constantly. *g* I do think some space is good right now for all three of them -- Neal, Peter and El -- but I suspect they'll be terrible at actually maintaining it ...)

I think the thing about the rift between them this season that breaks my heart is that they're both trying so hard to do the right thing: Neal making a deal with the devil to do what he feels is best for Peter, and Peter ripping his own heart out to do what he thinks is best for Neal. I can understand Neal feeling rejected and hurt right now, but I can't imagine him being so petty as to hold a grudge long-term -- last season Peter forgave Neal easily for beating him up and throwing him out of his life; Peter pushing Neal away this time is far gentler and more loving than Neal's rejection in 4x09. I mean, like I said, I can understand Neal being hurt and upset about it (in both cases, actually; it's not like I hate Neal for rejecting Peter in 4x09, either), but if Peter backing off a bit is truly an unforgivable offense in Neal's eyes ... then Peter really has been throwing his friendship down a black hole all this time. But I don't believe so.

Like I was saying to [personal profile] veleda_k, I think Peter openly acknowledging that Neal is a criminal is a good thing for both of them -- it's harsh but it's true, and Peter has basically spent the last four seasons trying to push Neal to be something he's not. Neal is never going to settle happily into a law-abiding life, he's never going to be happy working for the FBI, and the trouble isn't that Peter hasn't believed in Neal all this time, it's that he's believed in Neal too much. Peter's hung too much of his own happiness on Neal making a particular set of choices (not to break the law, not to do criminal things, to settle down and to be happy in a 9-to-5 life) -- but that isn't who Neal is; he's always going to reach for those extralegal solutions when he's backed against a wall, and I think eventually the person who's going to need to change in order for the two of them to settle into some kind of long-term friendly truce isn't Neal, but Peter, who needs to recognize that he's always seen Neal through rose-colored glasses and needs to learn to see and accept all of Neal, the good and the bad, not just the parts he wants to see. (In fairness, I think Neal himself has a slightly idealized view of his own future; [personal profile] veleda_k and I were talking about this, too, and it's hard to imagine Neal being happy with the quiet suburban existence that he thinks he wants -- his attraction to women like Kate and Sara who are basically the opposite of housewifely women like El says a lot about what he really wants, deep down.)

... basically, I guess, I think this is painful for them in the short term but in the long term it's a good step towards both of them eventually being able to approach each other somewhat more as equals rather than boss/subordinate or mentor/mentee, and towards Peter getting a better understanding of who Neal actually is rather than who he wants Neal to be.
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florafic[personal profile] florafic on October 22nd, 2013 04:52 pm (UTC)
You know, I think it's interesting that you read that final scene as Peter throwing Neal out of the White Collar family, because I'd read it in exactly the opposite way: that Peter openly acknowledges that Neal's part of the White Collar unit "family", part of his family, and because of that he's having to bring in someone from outside the department to handle Neal -- everyone else, including himself, has become too emotionally involved. It's basically the opposite of throwing him out: he's not reassigning Neal outside the department, just partnering him with someone who isn't emotionally compromised by having gotten too fond of Neal over the years, as is the case with everyone in White Collar now.

I don't think Peter means to throw Neal out of the family - he explicitly says he's not - but I think Neal is going to perceive it that way. I don't think he cam perceive it as anything else.

It's not so much that Neal is going to hold a grudge - he won't be angry (at least not for long) but he won't ever trust Peter again, either. (Which has less to do with Peter doing anything wrong and more to do with Neal being a giant ball of massive trust issues to begin with, even before this. That this comes right after James' betrayal isn't going to help.)

Part of the problem, IMO, is that Neal fundamentally doesn't understand the conflict Peter is having between doing his duty/doing what's right and protecting someone he cares about. To Neal, duty/what's right IS protecting those you love, period, full stop. That's it. (Also, Neal has zero concept of emotional distance/the dangers of loving someone too much. He doesn't think there's any such thing as being too emotionally involved.)

(And I have more thoughts, but I'm on a public library computer because mine is in the shop and my time is about to run out argh!)
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